Narration
Answer the following questions in a fluid paragraph response in the same order the questions are listed. This blog is the equivalent of a classroom discussion, so you will need to respond to your peers' posts in order to learn from multiple perspectives. Please refer to the blog rubric on Blackboard in order to achieve the grade you desire.
1. Describe what a narrator does and provide two examples from the texts we have read.
2. Why is a narrator necessary? Provide two reasons.
3. Provide an example of first-person narration in a recent movie you have seen. What is the impact of having a first-person narrator in a movie?
4. What is third-person omniscient narration? What is the value of having third-person omniscient narration? What is the limitation of having third-person omniscient narration?
5. What is third-person limited (also referred to as limited omniscience) narration? What is the value of having third-person limited narration? What is the limitation of having third-person?
6. Who is the narrator in "Araby" by James Joyce?
7. What form of narration is used in "Araby" by James Joyce? How do you know?
8. Who is the narrator in "The Dead" by James Joyce? How do you know?
9. What form of narration is used in "Girl" by Jamaica Kincaid? How do you know?
10. How does listening to a selection instead of reading it affect your comprehension?
11. How does listening to a selection instead of reading it affect your overall opinion of the work?
12. What happens when you cannot trust the narrator?
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Liz Fusciardi - A narrator sets the tone for the story, whether it’s1st person, 3rd person, or somewhere in between. A&P was set in a 1st person narrative, the person speaking was the protagonist, The Dead was written as 3rd person.
ReplyDeleteNarrators are necessary for a few reasons, they have an affect on how the story is told based on their voice and the way the read the text, we generate ideas based off their tone and tiny inferences they make.
A movie that comes to mind with 1st person narration is “A Christmas Story," this impacts the movie because you are able to determine what the character was feeling at the moment it happened, instead of inferring it.
When there is a narrator who knows all of the thoughts and desires of every character it is called a 3rd person omniscient, this is helpful when you have a lot of characters to keep track of as well as quick setting changes. I don't really consider this a limitation but maybe knowing too many inner thoughts of the characters isn't good for trying to stay connected with the main ones.
3rd person limited might be better way for some people, this is when the narrator only knows about one person in the story. It allows you to form your own opinion and try to guess what the others might be thinking. Unfortunately this also could be bad for people that cannot interpret things well and have poor imagination.
In "Araby" the narrator was the boy, and it was written in first person narration, you know this because it says things like "I" and "We".
"The Dead" used 3rd person omniscience. We know this because it gave you insight as to what some of the characters were thinking, not just one. "Girl" was written as 1st party, the narrator tells the girl how to do things, "this is how you," you is the key word there.
When you listen to the story instead of reading it you have a better idea of the story and you are less likely to zone out, unless it's a terrible plot! It allows you to follow along and think about things rather than just losing your spot in the text. When you listen, sometimes you are able to get a better understanding of the character and the trials and tribulations they are going through.
If you cannot trust the narrator maybe he is a part of the story and just so happens to be the bad guy trying to persuade you to stray over to the dark side.
Would you possibly consider that in "Girl", the narrator is speaking to you and involving you, the reader, in the story?
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Madison Tollett- A narrator is the one who reads the text out loud during short stories. Narration can be done in many different ways as someone who reads the italicized or thoughts of someone which also determines the option of 1st 2nd or 3rd person narration.
ReplyDeleteNarration was important in A&P to explain the thoughts in Sammy's head and to set the scene for the audience. In The Dead narration was simply the character's conversations and them describing the scene.
A narrator is necessary for the short story for them to tell us in the tone it was written. We as the audience are able to feel what the character felt by having the story narrated versus us reading it in a monotone.
I watch Desperate Housewives which is a show not a movie however, there is narration in every episode. One of the character's who died opens every episode by explaining the events that may come about and then being able to tell the audience what the quieter characters were thinking.
3rd person omniscient narration can have positives and negatives. Knowing how the characters may be feeling or what they are thinking when they don't simply state it is like being able to get inside someone's head. However, knowing everything leaves very little mystery to what is to come.
3rd person limited is just that limited. You get to know one character extremely well while you are in the dark about the others. It is like watching a movie and knowing who the killer is but not being able to tell the rest of the room.
The boy who went to the market and came home with nothing was the narrator in "Araby" the way the audience is sure is because it talks about him using I or We such as when he talks about looking under the door with the curtain drawn slightly.
The narrator is "The Dead" was everyone, the audience was able to understand the way most characters were feeling because we listened to it through their words.
In "Girl" narration was 1st person and the narrator was the one instructing and explaining how "you" iron a shirt or get rid of a baby.
Listening to a short story helps me to comprehend the emotion and tone of a story better than if I'm trying to depict it with the way I read.
When you can't trust the narrator you may not be able to comprehend the story as well because you are trying to figure out what is truth. I agree it could be the manipulative bad guy trying to sway your view to get your vote.
Which type of narration do you believe was utilized in "The Dead": third-person limited or omniscient?
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Roman Leal
ReplyDeleteI agree with both Liz and Madison, a narrator sets the tone and it’s the one telling the story. For example, the narrator in A & P is initiates the story with what is going through Sammy’s mind, and then he jumps into the reality. In Jesus Shaves, the narrator is good with setting the tone when he talks how the characters in the story would have.
The narrator is necessary because it helps us understand the story. For example, in Jesus Shaves, the narrator is great with setting the mood with his voice, speaking soft when the story calls for it or getting loud if needed. Another good example is the narrator in the movie 300 with Gerard Butler. The narrator at the end does a great job at keeping you wanting more of what is to come, or wanting more of the movie.
An example of a 1st person narrator in a movie is Forest Gump. The impact is that I was able to get a feeling of what it was like to walk a day in the life of Forest-- more than just a walk, it was “run forest run!” It is a great movie.
Per education Portal, “In third person omniscient, the narrator knows all the thoughts and feelings of all the characters in the story. When writing in third person omniscient, the author will move from character to character, allowing the events to be interpreted by several different voices, but always maintaining an omniscient - or god-like - distance.” The value for this is that the audience can have a better idea of what every character is like and feels, but the narrator is only limited to filling in the blanks of the story, like in George of the Jungle.
Third person limited is “a method of storytelling in which the narrator knows only the thoughts and feelings of a single character, while other characters are presented only externally.” The value to it is that it “grants a writer more freedom than first person,” but it is limited by less freedom in the third person.
In Araby, the narrator is the 1st person, the boy in live with the girl. I know this because he refers to himself, using “I” and “we”.
Narrator in The Dead was 3rd person omniscience because the reader gets to see and differentiate between all the characters and each character seems to be speaking to the reader.
In Girl, I disagree with Liz. The narrator is using the 3rd person limited method because he only knows the thoughts and feelings of one character while we can infer that there is another character in the story.
Listening to the selection instead of reading it can affect the comprehension because of tone of voice. For example, as I was listening to A & P, my initial thought was that it was an old man for the character. Further in the text, I learn that it is actually a 19 yr old.
Listening to the selection instead of reading it affects overall opinion because the changes in tone in particular texts can be interpreted in different ways had you only been reading it.
If you can’t trust the narrator, the value of the story diminishes. It would be hard to stay focused on the selection.
I agree with you, listing to "A&P' did allow me to think that the narrator was an old man.
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Tommy Wheeler
ReplyDeleteLike the others have stated, a narrator tells the story. The narrator has a “voice” that is used to describe the events and emotions of a character or characters. Because the story is being told from the narrators point of view (POV), there is a bias to how things are perceived. In the story “A&P” that bias is clear when Sammy describes the various characters that came into the store. As Roman mentioned, about the story “Jesus Shaves”, you can hear the tone in the voice of the narrator. So, in other words, the narrator brings the story to life.
With a narrator, a story would just be an impersonal, dry history book. Like Liz said, narrators have an effect on how we perceive the story.
Not to copy Liz, although I am, “A Christmas Story” shows to world through the eyes of Ralphie. As is the case in 1st person narration, the audience only hears the thoughts of the main character and what that character experiences. Because of this view, you gain a far more intimate understanding of the character, understanding what they actually, not simply inferring.
Like everyone said, 3rd person omniscient narration means that the narrator is not limited to only one perspective, but instead can go in and out of every characters thoughts. This gives the reader the value of knowing what each character’s real motives are. The limitation is that the story is that the story can become confusing to follow, and it won’t be as open to interpretation. No sitting around the table afterwards, talking about why you think a character did this or that.
What they said. A little bit of both POV’s. You get the value of knowing the main characters thoughts and emotions, and you still keep the mystery of what drives the other characters. The limitation is simply that you don’t know as much, which makes use of our imaginations.
I think we all agree that the boy stalking the girl is the narrator.
Just like Roman said, “Araby” is in 1st person. The narrator uses terms that imply personal experience, like “I”.
The narrator was 3rd person, since the reader was taken in and out of several of the characters thoughts (leaving me confused about who I was following now)
I’m gonna go with 1st person. The POV is that of the “slut”.
You can draw all kinds of conclusions based on a person’s voice, similarly to a person’s appearance. The reader in “A&P” sounded much older than a teenager, which
broke my trust with the narrating voice, it was over.
Although a spoken voice can hurt the believability of the narrator and can also reinforce it. I’d rather take the chance to listen to a narrator than to just read.
You start to second guess the motives or the logic of the narrator. Sometimes this can make the story more fun. Sometimes it can make the story unbearable…
1) A narrator tells a story. A narrator supplies the reader with plot, theme, characters, setting and all the tools necessary to explain the story to the reader descriptively and in depth.
ReplyDelete2) A narrator is necessary because the story cannot be seen or heard. It instead has to be told by a narrator who can recall the story in detail. Without narration, there would be no point of view and it could skew the interpretation of the story greatly. It would also terribly confuse the reader.
3) In the movie Submarine, the main character narrates the events surrounding his relationship with a girl. It involves the moment he realizes he has a crush on her, their romantic involvement and subsequently their devastating break-up. The reason the director decided to add the main character’s narration to the movie was to capture the emotions and thoughts that he was having throughout this romance. An audience can see characters’ emotions throughout a movie - and it can be very touching at times -
But humans cannot read minds and can, therefore, not know what a character is thinking specifically.
4) Third-person omniscient narration is a narration by an “all-knowing being” The narrator knows what every individual character is thinking and feeling and is able to relay these thoughts and emotions to the reader. The limitation of a third-person omniscient narration is the ability to use personal pronouns. Personal pronouns are a great was to connect emotion to the reader. Although an omniscient narrator has access to every character’s thoughts and emotions, it may be a little more difficult for the reader to relate to the characters without personal pronouns.
5) A third-person limited narrator does not have access to characters’ emotions or thoughts, but is instead telling the story from a third-person point of view. A third-person limited narration is able to tell a story and leave a lot of room for the reader to infer his or her own interpretations.
6) The narrator of Araby is the main character: the boy who is infatuated with the girl.
7) First person narration is used because he uses the personal pronoun, “I”.
8) The Dead is told by a third-person limited narrator. The narrator seems to have restricted access to the characters’ thoughts. The narrator assumes emotions the characters are feeling based on their actions. For example, “Gabriel knitted his brows… as if he were slightly angered” (Joyce 608).
9) Girl uses a second-person narration – which is particularly rare and makes me love the story even more. The reason that is, is because the narrator is speaking to the reader – involving the reader in the story and making the reader a character. The story doesn’t get too into it, considering its length, but I would have loved to have read more to see how it turned out.
10) Personally, I have difficulty reading. I tend to lose interest in stories and my mind wanders. Listening to it helps me especially by engaging my both my eyes and ears. This allows me to better focus on the story and minimizes my ability to be distracted.
11) I’ve personally noticed that the voice and tone of the person narrating the story affects students’ opinions towards a work. I feel that if “Girl” were read by a girl in her late teens or early twenties, the class would have had a much different opinion on the story. Having a story read by someone makes the listener assume that the reader is the main character, just as how many people have difficulty untying author from narrator.
12) When you cannot trust the narrator, the story can be surprising. It can affect a reader’s ability to infer what will happen next. It doesn’t necessarily make the narrator a bad story teller. Just an unreliable one.
- Elephantsicko
I must say that until this class I had never "listened" to a story before in the form of audio book or narration. It has changed the way I look at literature and sparked my interest into audio books now.
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I have never had a teacher to use audio book or narration it's my first time for it and I actually like it because I tend to learn better that way.
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1. Describe what a narrator does and provide two examples from the texts we have read.
ReplyDeleteA narrator presents the story to the reader. The narrator presented the setting of “Araby” and the story of “Jesus Shaves.”
2. Why is a narrator necessary? Provide two reasons.
A narrator gives flexibility to the author’s ability to present the story. A narrator presents the story in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd person view and can free the author to express beliefs different from their own.
3. Provide an example of first-person narration in a recent movie you have seen. What is the impact of having a first-person narrator in a movie?
I can’t think of a movie off the top of my head, but anything narrated by Morgan Freeman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2BzLf2jwIM
It, once again, limits the flexibility of the writers ability to tell the story.
4. What is third-person omniscient narration? What is the value of having third-person omniscient narration? What is the limitation of having third-person omniscient narration?
It is when the narrator, “knows the thoughts and feelings of all of the characters in the story.” (Wiehardt)
Using this narration method a writer can present multiple characters, experiences and points of view simultaneously.
It can be limited because the narrator can only reveal so much at any given time without risking divulging too much information, or boring their reader with too many complex intricacies to follow.
5. What is third-person limited (also referred to as limited omniscience) narration? What is the value of having third-person limited narration? What is the limitation of having third-person?
When the narrator only knows the thoughts of one character in a story. Often referring to others as “they”, “them”, “she/he” etc.
Value: Can make the story more intimate. Readers learn about the story from one, individual point of view.
Limitation: Readers ONLY get that point of view.
6. Who is the narrator in "Araby" by James Joyce?
The boy who was infatuated with the girl from the convent.
7. What form of narration is used in "Araby" by James Joyce? How do you know?
Third person limited. He knows his thoughts, but cannot know the thoughts of others.
8. Who is the narrator in "The Dead" by James Joyce? How do you know?
A multitude of different narrators, judging by the conversations the reader is exposed to.
9. What form of narration is used in "Girl" by Jamaica Kincaid? How do you know?
First person. She refers to herself constantly.
10. How does listening to a selection instead of reading it affect your comprehension?
The viewer becomes more involved, as the narrator can change emotions or moods simply through inflection or tone of voice.
11. How does listening to a selection instead of reading it affect your overall opinion of the work?
Improves it. The narrator of “Araby” has a better Irish accent then I do.
12. What happens when you cannot trust the narrator?
You keep reading. Waiting to see how the story ends. If you cannot trust the narrator, you cannot trust your expectations of the end.
J.N.Karshner
1. narrator tells the story and he/she can be involved in the story or be in the wall looking. Araby was a third person story because it was simply being told. But A&P was a first person because is was being told by Sammy.
ReplyDelete2. The narrator is necessary to tell the story. The narrator has to set everything up for us (the readers) by setting the place, the character, and the tone.
3. I believe the new Hercules with the rock in it is in first person. I liked it because the narrator would talk but them would also go fight with Hercules so I think it had a good effect on the movie.
4. Third person omniscient is when the narrator tells the story from the outside but knows the feelings and emotions of the characters. Its good in some ways because you know everything but for that same reason it has its disadvantages because you cannot use your imagination.
5. Third person limited is almost the same as omniscient the difference is instead of knowing everything about everyone, limited only know everything about one person. It give the writer more freedom then first person but less then omniscient.
6&7. The boy that ends up not getting the gift is the narrator because in the story he uses "I" and "we".
8. "The Dead" was a third person omniscient. All the characters express their thoughts and emotions.
9. "Girl" was in first person. It was a person telling someone how to be a lady or maybe how people persevere women to be.
10. Listing to a selection while following helps me tremendously to understand and fully grasp the story. When I read I literally just read but i do not know what I read in the last sentence.
11. My opinion is the same as long as I understand the story when read.
12. Losing trust in the narrator ruins the peace you are reading. You would have to be reading more in depth to find the truth.
1. A narrator is the person that tells the story. For example, in the story “A&P” by John Updike, Sammy was the one narrating the story because he was the one describing his thoughts. Another example is from the story “Araby” by James Joyce. The boy was the narrator because he described his feelings and his own experiences.
ReplyDelete2. A narrator can help the reader to understand things that the character won’t explain or say, and can tell us a lot about a character, or setting of the story.
3. I have seen a first person narration in the movie “The Hunger Games”. At the beginning Katniss describes the situation that is going on for everyone to understand. The impact of having a first person narration is that the narrator is telling the reader their first hand experiences or situation. It helps the reader to read the story in a more casual tone, making it easier for the reader to understand the narrator.
4. A third omniscient narrator is where the narrator seems to know all the thoughts, feelings, and perspective of all the characters in the story. The value of having a third person omniscient narration is that the reader can understand and relate to the character and the story more.
5. A third person limited narration is a narrator that only knows the thoughts and feelings of a narrator. The limitation of having a third person is that you don’t know the perspective of another character.
6. The narrator of “Araby” by James Joyce is the boy because he uses words such as “we” and “I”.
7. “Araby” by James Joyce is told in first person narration because the story is told in a first person point of view. For example he says, “I ran to the hall.”
8. The narrator of “The Dead” by James Joyce is a third person omniscient perspective. No one from the story is the narrator, it is just a narrator stating all the thoughts, feelings and perspective of the characters in the story.
9. In “The Girl” by Jamaica Kincaid, third person limited narration is used because the narrator is the only one who knows the thoughts and feelings. The reader’s cannot infer to who the narrator is.
10. Listening to a selection instead of reading can help me understand the story more because it gives the characters the exact tone that they use in the story. When I read a story I might misunderstand the tone of a character.
11. For me listening to the selection instead of reading is the same for me because does not really affect the comprehension of the work.
12. When you cannot trust the narrator one starts to rethink the whole concept of the narrative. It can make the story more interesting.
-Salam Zaidan
I like your thoughts on number 10 because the tone can really make things much more interesting.
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Austin Duenes
ReplyDelete1. The narrartor is the person or thing that is telling the story. the Narrator provides the voice and the focus of the story. In A&P it is Sammy describing what he sees and what is going on. He is providing the focus of First person and in The Dead it was in the third person.
2. The main purpose for the narrartor is to obtain the story in your head. It is there so you can see it in the way the author wants you to see it. That being 1st, 2nd or 3rd person.
3. The most recent movie I've seen that was in first person would be The Hobbit. The impact of having the movie like that is it shows the adventure of a hobbit that went from a boring life to an extreme one. This makes for a good first person because the fact that the hobbit went through so much.
4. A third person omniscient is a narrator that is telling the story from a few important charactors thoughts, perceptions, and other experiences. This is also called an unlimited narrator. This form of narration can help you better understand the over all feeling everyone might be going through in a particular part of the story. The downfall to this form is that you have to keep rotating to each character and keep getting the thoughts and everything else going on with that character and it could prolong a story and confuse the reader.
5. A third person limited narrator is the point of view from one person and is effective in a way because you can fully focus yourself on that character and get a full feeling towards that on person narrating the story. The downfall to this is that all you get is the point of view from that character and no one else. This could get old to a reader if the narrator in the story is a whinny person or not the hero.
6. In Araby the boy is the narrator and uses the words like "I" and "we". So this is a good indication that he is the narrator.
7. The type of narration in Araby is first person because like i said he uses "I" and "we" I know this because it matches the definition to how the narrator is presenting themselves.
8. In The Dead the story is told in third person narrator the type of third person would limited narrator. This is because he only bases the feelings of others in the story by what their actions are.
9. The type of narration used in Girl is second person narration. This is because it is a "how-to" form of writting. This makes it clear on the type of narration being presented.
10. For me listening to a story is nice because it's someone elses voice that is reading what I'm reading and it gives it a better tone when someone can almost act out the character as they're reading it aloud. If i'm reading it to myself there is almost no emotion to what i'm reading and I tend to just rush through it.
11. It only affects my opinion if the person i'm listening to does a poor job of reading it aloud. If there's no emotion or like I said acting out the character is not great, then it can lose my interest quick.
12. If you can't trust the narrator than that means it could make for an exciting story or one that you may not like very much. It all depends on the person reading it. I for one would like a narrator that I can't trust because you won't know what to expect. The thrill of the unknown is something most of us like.
1.The narrator tells the outline of a story its the voice. it sets the tone for example the story "girl" it was first person
ReplyDelete2.The narrator is necessary because the narrator films in the parts that we can not see only hear and also it brings in depth what the story is about or what the main idea is
3. Forrest Gump it is important to have first person narrating because that way get can tag into their thoughts and relate
4. Third person omniscient is the person/entity from who's viewpoint the story is told
the limitation of having third person omniscient narration is they are not a character in the text
5The value of having third person Is that they get to portray their thoughts and emotions , Third person is limited because it only says the story and what people say but does not know what they think
6/7. in "Araby" the boy (first person) because he uses "I"
8.The story is being narrated by third person telling what is going on in the event ,
9. I believe the story "girl" was first person because we can actually know how she feels about her and explains to her how to be a good wife and obedient
10. it is a bit confusion more confusing
11. it is a bit confusing for example in the short story "a&p" where the voice threw us off little
12 . when I can not trust the narrator then it will be harder to keep up with the story difficult to understand
Saraai
1. A narrator is the person describing the story. Usually not the person you hear on an audio tape, but the person who sets up the story, and whose words are actually in the text. In “A&P” the narrator is the Sammy talking to himself. In “Jesus Shaves” the narrator is the guy who just can’t imagine a bell as the symbol of Easter. We later learn that he actually has the same troubles as his classmates.
ReplyDelete2. A narrator is necessary to help guide the reader through the details of the story. They also set the tone, and help the reader to understand what’s meant by the characters actions.
3. The Sandlot has a first person narrator, the main character, but as an older man. This adds credibility and feelings to his words.
4. Third person omniscient is a method of storytelling in which the narrator knows the thoughts and feelings of all of the characters in the story. He can manipulate the reader better, so that the desired effect is achieved.
5. When a nonparticipating narrator sees events through the eyes of a single character, whether a major character or a minor one. He can pick the character that he wishes to focus on. However he’s limited by only being able to see one person’s point of view.
6. The narrator in “Araby” is the main character, the young boy who the story follows.
7. Participant. Because he refers to himself by saying “I”.
8. The narration in “The Dead” was shared by many different characters throughout the story.
9. Participant, or first person narration is used in “Girl”. The older woman is telling the younger girl what to do, so that she lives a life she deems acceptable.
10. It’s actually my preferred method. I can actually comprehend the material much easier when I listen to it, opposed to just simply reading it. I can form images in my head easier.
11. It can actually change it quite a bit. A certain accent of the person reading the text can cause me to form certain opinions about the characters.
12. It makes you not be able to concentrate on what’s going on. You’re constantly looking to catch the narrator in a lie. This takes away from the overall experience.
Marc Moody
A narrator is the person telling the story either of themselves or about someone else. Like in “Jesus Shaves“ by David Sedaris the narrator is one of the student in the class, and in “A & P” by John Updike the narrator is Sammy the cashier. The narrator is necessary because it’s the one that gives life to the story, and the readers become attach to the narrator. The movie “Instructions not Included” is an example of first-person narration. The impact was great because how you watch the movie you become attach to the narrator and you start getting emotionally attach. Third-person omniscient narration is when someone else is telling the story, not a character. The limitation of having third-person narration is that it only focuses on certain characters. The narrator in “Araby” is the little boy trying to get the girl because of the “I”. The narrator in “The Dead” is someone that is not one of the character (third-person) because it talks about everyone in the party by name. “Girl” is narrated by first-person because it used “I”. Listening to a selection instead of reading it affect my comprehension in the sense that I am able to understand the reading better.
ReplyDeleteA common misconception about the narrator is that it is not the author, unless it is an autobiography. But could be a character in the story, or can even be just an observer to the story taking place. A Narrator tells the story. Two good examples of narrators from our short stories that we read are “Girl” by Jamaica Kincaids and “Jesus shaves” by David Sedaris. On both of these passages the there is a Narrator. One being a fourth grade teacher and the other being, an unknown because of the vagueness of the material and that it was taken from a larger whole. A narrator is necessary because it ties the characters together and helps the direct the story. Also the narrator can give information about the characters and how they would react in a given situation. A good example of a First person narration would be “Forest Gump”. The reason why a first person narration is so effective is because it pulls the audience in with the story, it allows the viewer to be a part of the story. When the narrator knows all the thoughts and feelings of all the characters in the story this is called a third person omniscient. Third Person Omniscient lets you move freely through time and space, gives more information in a smaller amount of time, and yes, even shows what multiple people are thinking within a scene. Although this seems like the strongest form of narration there are limitations. It can become tricky to decide when to show action on there are limitations and when to transition into the mind of a character (and which character’s mind for that matter). 3rd person narration only knows about one persons it is limited in giving you information about the characters thoughts and feeling, the benefit of having a third person is that the story is easier to follow. In "Araby" the narrator was the boy, and it was written in first person narration, and because of the choice of words like when he say “I” or “we”. "The Dead" used 3rd person omniscience, because the narrator understood people thoughts. The narrator is using the 3rd person limited, because she didn’t understand the thoughts of every character. Listening rather than reading, lets you observe the story easily because you’re not worrying about reading the story, so you can concentrate better on it better. I honestly believe it depends on the person and how they learn best. When you cannot trust the narrator, you are left to build your own assumptions.
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Viridiana Salinas
ReplyDeleteThe narrator of the story basically sets a tone to the story for the reader. There are a few types of narration. While each of them still involve a narration they both create different effects. It a way, it is way of telling a story in different perspectives. For example, The Dead was written in a 3rd person narrative while A&P was written in a 1st person narrative.
A narrator is necessary for a story because it gives the story some character and it also helps the reader follow the story with ease. It is as if your own friend was explaining what was going on in a movie as you saw it. It makes the reader feel more involved or even part of the story.
I agree with Madison, in the fact that Desperate Housewives, a reality show, bring a first person type of narration. Each of the characters talk about their own lives in the show directly addressing the viewers giving the impression of a conversational and laid back environment where the housewives talk directly to you about their stories.
A third person omniscient narration is different in that it tells an unidentified listener what happened referring to all the characters. The value of having this type of narration is that it gives access to the thoughts, perceptions, and experiences of more than one character. This might set some limitations in transitions of the story. It may also make it hard for the reader to keep up with all the characters.
A third person limited is even more limited in the way that it places focus on only a few characters. While this maybe beneficial to go in depth with details for certain characters, it might be a setback for the reader since they won’t get the whole picture.
The narrator in Araby is the boy who is infatuated win Mangan because he talks in terms of “I” and “we. He makes it seems as if he is talking about himself directly.
The narrator in “The Dead” was everyone involved in the story, because he were involved in a lot of dialogue between the guests. I would say that Gabriel was a central part of the story so he might have been more prominent in this sense.
In “Girl, the narration was in first person as the narrator was expressing direct instructions which was a lot more transparent. It was as the conversation was only between her and the reader.
Reading a selection as we have in class definitely helps me comprehend and follow the story better. It also affects my opinion of the work because I can envision the story better so I make more sense of it. When I am reading it myself I feel like I have to re-read to it recapture what is happening.
When you can’t trust the narrator you must simply see what he/she says as adding effects to the story.
I completely agree. - Haakam Sherwani
Delete1. Describe what a narrator does and provide two examples from the texts we have read.
ReplyDeleteA narrator is a person that narrates or tells a story. In A&P, it was Sammie. In Araby,it was the boy from North Richmond Street. Both of the stories were told from their point of view.
2. Why is a narrator necessary? I don't think that narrators are necessary. 1) Plays don't necessarily have narrators, because a lot of the times, we know something that the narrator doesn't. Plays are a a staple of the arts. 2) We can witness a whole movie without a narrator. Scarface has no narrator. Boyz in The Hood doesn't have a narrator.
3. I have seen Goodfellas recently. The impact is enormous, because the narrator is also the protagonist, and we get to see the action through his eyes.
4. Third person omniscent is when the narrator knows the thoughts and feelings of every single character in the story. The value is he knows everyone's feelings and thoughts. The limitation is that he can't change it through action.
5. Third-person limited is when the narrator only knows the feelings and thoughts of one character. The value is that you see the story through one person's eyes, and you get an in-depth look of their feelings and thoughts. The limitation is that we don't know what the rest of the characters are thinking about.
6. The boy from North Richmond Street.
7. It is told in first person narration, because he uses words such as "I", and he is speaking of his experience.
8. Third person limited, because the narrator doesn't know every person's feeling or thoughts, he only states the actions.
9. The Girl is in second person. It uses word like "you" and "your", to display that someone is talking to someone else.
10. It helps, because usually, the narrator will speak in a tone of that era or age in which the novel is taking place.
11. It makes it more interesting, because instead of hearing a bland voice, I hear the voice of the people who were actually there.
12. When you can't trust the narrator, the story is more unclear, and it makes it harder to understand the story. It makes you want to put down the novel or not watch the movie or play.
- Haakam Sherwani
1. tells a story.
ReplyDelete2. because he tells the story. without narration, there is no story.
3. Expendables. The story unfolds through the narrators eyes.
4. limited, and objective. provides the reader with information about the character.
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6. A young boy.
7. 3rd person. use of "he, she, they"
8. don't know. not clear.
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