CARPA for "Divorce"
1. Which parts of the text did you focus on?
2. Why did you pay particular attention to these parts?
3. What questions were you asking as you read?
4. What images were you forming as you read?
5. What were the purposes of these images?
6. What theme do you take away from this poem?
2. Why did you pay particular attention to these parts?
3. What questions were you asking as you read?
4. What images were you forming as you read?
5. What were the purposes of these images?
6. What theme do you take away from this poem?
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Professor Stanley
1) I mainly concentrated on the text” across a granite table / and the knives they have hired.”
ReplyDelete2) Because the poet uses personification to these inanimate objects by the characteristics of that object.
3) After further analysis I under what the text was saying by the tittle, but my initial question what “why did they hire knives”?
4) Spoons lying in bed (the couple) but soon fighting like pitch forks, and knives represented as lawyers in their divorce.
5) To have symbolize threw a set of silverwhere how divorce would be an who by the characteristics of that object.
6) If we can see divorce from an objects point of view then we can see divorce from our point of view, what do knives do, they cut threw and separate. I would say the theme would be that “marriage isn’t always absolute”.
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Benjamin Rosales
I could of re-writen this better...
DeleteMadison Tollett
ReplyDelete1) "Once, two spoons in bed, / now tined forks"
2)It is as if they use to be spoons, smooth and comfortable form fitting to one another and now they are "forks" that have sharp edges and do not lay properly in one another.
3) What are the knives they have hired?
4) Spoons with this couples face on them smiling and then two forks split in a silverware drawer as if one misplaced.
5) They were happy when they were so called spoons and then as soon as whatever struggle they had hit they became forks something that can stab and sensitive things can slip right through.
6) Divorce is never happy.
Cristian Rayas
DeleteI agree with you Madison divorce is always stressful from paperwork to a broken heart and impact on others.
-Cristian Rayas
I liked how you described what the fork and knife stood for in question #5.
Delete-Karla Menchaca
Cristian Rayas
ReplyDelete1) "two spoons"
2) The spoons represent a married couple just laying in bed almost as if they were discontent.
3) Why type of Conflict were the couple dealing with?
4) Two couples in bed, a fork,spoons, knives
5) I honestly think i figured it out i believe that the spoons represent a married couple, the fork represent a conflict or problem, and the knives represent solution like as in maybe lawyers? Which are there to settle the divorce!
6) Destruction of Beauty.
-Cristian Rayas
Would you happen to think that the two spoons in bed may refer to a once happy couple "spooning"?
Delete- Elephantsicko
I like your idea about knives representing lawyers . :)
DeleteJessica Gallardo
ReplyDelete1.Which parts of the text did you focus on?
The most common focus of this verse has been as a prohibition against “Divorce, and having the hope of Remarriage and Ministry. And the two spoons representing, there marriage or there romance.
2. Why did you pay particular attention to these parts?
Well if you divorce and remarry except on the grounds of adultery, you become Ministry.
3. What questions were you asking as you read?
Do marriages have the same aspects of what the bible says?
You must obey me because the Bible says so or honor your partner to death apart no matter the circumstances.
4. What images were you forming as you read?
Being alone after a divorce is it isolating and worrying about being alone constantly.
5. What were the purposes of these images?
Your public image, dividing things, money issues having the best time while you are in a relationship and suddenly there is ups and downs in the marriage and things can start to change for the worst or for the good changes.
6. What theme do you take away from this poem?
Not a wedding poem, but is rather a divorce poem
That is brilliant to equate silverware with the facets of a marriage and divorce proceeds. It speaks so much in the four lines of the poem, when you read it and how many meals this couple may have shared, was their first date in a restaurant.
1. and the knives they have hired. (did they hire killers?)
ReplyDelete2. Because it made me wonder if they hired killers.
3. Is it really this short?
4. "Once, two spoons in bed" (My ex and I slept this way, me holding her as we slept, her curled up in front of me.)
5. Fond memories.
6. Divorce is sad, and sometimes violence ensues.
Doug Trimmer
1. I paid particular attention to the comparisons to the utensils
ReplyDelete2. Though it was such a short poem, the comparisons of the utensils to the couple they were being compared to were positively accurate. "Once, two spoons in bed," How clever is this! We even consider a type of cuddling "spooning"! "Now tined forks / across a granite table" is also clever! forks are pointed and make a very unappealing sound when dragged across a table! (mutters under breath while everyone else ignores the enthusiasm) So clever.
3. What happened to this couple?
Are "the knives they have hired" meant to be used for killing or just for imagery to imply a quarrel of some sort?
Were the knives, by any chance, meant to cut ties with each other and not have to do with violence at all?
4. The images of a once intimate and loving couple spooning and smiling and holding each other formed in my head. It was fairly sad considering the next images that formed were of the once loving couple arguing over small, irrelevant things until they gradually became larger and more difficult to overlook and finally an agreement to go their separate ways.
5. The writer was aiming to place these images in the reader's head and he did so with flawless metaphors. (see answer to #2)
6. Anything that starts can and will come to an end.
- Elephantsicko
1. “and the knives they have hired”
ReplyDelete2. It represents the attorneys they each have hired.
3. What was the cause of the divorce?
4. The couple arguing or disagreeing on something.
5. I’m assuming that’s why they got a divorce everything sounded fine at the beginning of the poem.
6. It’s all love and games, then the tables turn.
Julie Rosales
Nice interpretation on #2. I think that would be a reasonable reference to attorneys since that is usually the process that people go through in a divorce. I think digging a little bit deeper the knife part might be signifying the attorney's legal separation of the couple. There is a connection in the legal separation to knives because knives are typically used to cut or separate.
DeleteViridiana S.
1. Which parts of the text did you focus on?
ReplyDeleteI focused on the separation of the stanzas as well as personification Bill Collins used. While the poem is very short, it is easy to tell that the author is using the personification of forks to represent a marriage of two people. The title of the poem says it all. The marriage has been dissolved.
2. Why did you pay particular attention to these parts?
I paid particular attention to these parts of the poem because it is what made the most sense to me. Since the poem was very short, there was nothing else to really focus on other than the fact that there has been a divorce.
3. What questions were you asking as you read?
What was Mr. Collins really referring to in the last stanza?
4. What images were you forming as you read?
The imagery can gather from this piece is of a couple who is no longer happy. Their faces aren’t thrilled, their family has been destroyed, and they are both moving on. At the time, life doesn’t look so bright.
5. What were the purposes of these images?
Purpose: The separation has changed and has affected everyone. We aren’t given details if children were involved, but either way, a divorce is a big deal and there are larger implications. The couple has broken their vows and there’s a sense of emptiness. The shortness of the poem indicates that there is nothing else left to say or do.
6. What theme do you take away from this poem?
The theme I take away from this poem is that nothing lasts forever. Happiness comes and goes and life is full of ups and downs. Letting go is a part of life as well.
Viridiana S.
1. The tittle. If the tittle was not divorce we wouldn't know that the author was referring to a couple we would have simply thought he was crazy talking about some silverware.
ReplyDelete2. because it is critical to understand the poem.
3. what made them get divorced? Are they still alive or did they have at it with knives? Or did they hire someone to kill the other person?
4. Silverware on a granite table.
5.Without a tittle i would have just seen silverware but "Divorce" changes the perspective.
6. make sure you get married to someone that you are truly happy and don't have to change anything about because you might want to kill them later if you weren't that happy.
I agree, we had a lot of the same understanding of this poem.
Delete-Salam Zaidan
Roman Leal
ReplyDelete1) I focused on “two spoons in bed”.
2) I pied attention to this part because it is easy to see how one can have 2 spoons in bed, but what if the author is talking about spooning. The way one spoons his/her spouse or partner.
3) Is that it? Where is the rest of the poem? Why is there a space between the 2nd and the 3rd line? By “tined forks”, could he be saying that in bed, the couple no longer spoon but are more likely to just sleep flat on their backs with their feet as straight out as possible?
4) I was forming a couple spooning. Then, I formed a table with forks and knives.
5) The purpose of these images was to set the mood of the poem.
6) The theme that I take from this is that when love dies, so do the sweet gestures.
1. I focused on the title of the poem
ReplyDelete2. I paid attention to the title because I felt like the title gave the whole poem meaning. Without the title there is no meaning.
3. Why is the couple going through this divorce?
4. I was imagining a couple going through divorce. The poem gave kind of a feeling like they were at war with each other.
5. I imagined these things because of the utensils that were being used. They went from two spoons, to two forks, and they had knives that they hired. The knives probably represent lawyers.
6. Divorce is a hard thing to go through.
-Salam Zaidan
1. The title. Because, if Collins didn't title it "Divorce" I would think the poem is about silverware.
ReplyDelete2. Because the poem was so short I viewed every word and "Divorce" just said it all, a marriage is in the process of splitting one another.
3. What was the cause of the divorce? Who had the fault?
4. Two spoons across a granite table with a knife in between cutting something.
5. Memories that at a time meant something and now is in the past.
6. The theme I take from it is, love always comes to an end like everything else in this world.
-Karla Menchaca
1. I focus on “once two spoons in bed, now tined forks”
ReplyDelete2. I focused on this text because he using symbolism. when he says “two spoons in a bed” could mean two people in bed being together but distant at the same time.
3. Does he come from a divorce family? Is his poem short because his marriage was short is he ever was marry?
4. The images that are forming are a couple that had a short marriage ended up getting a divorce and killing each other.
5. The purpose of these images is to help me understand more about the poem and the background
6. The theme that I take away is that if we let things get on the way of a relationship is never going to work out and even in a divorce. Marriage consists of two people and two people need to put the same amount of effort for the relationship to work out.
-sarai garcia
Tommy
ReplyDelete1. Which parts of the text did you focus on?
“tined forks” was a phrase I focused on as well as “knives they have hired.”
2. Why did you pay particular attention to these parts?
I didn’t understand what tined meant and it could change the meaning of the stanza. I found that it means sharp, pointed or pointing. After learning what it means, I found that line to mean that the couple was angry and bitter, pointing blame at the other.
Again I was trying to understand what the knives meant in this context, because that would change the meaning of the last line. I think they are a symbol for lawyers.
3. What questions were you asking as you read?
What does tined mean?
What do the knives represent?
4. What images were you forming as you read?
I visualized a large granite kitchen island with a fork and knife on each side, screaming at each other with tiny faces.
5. What were the purposes of these images?
The image brought together the two stanzas for me.
6. What theme do you take away from this poem?
Divorce is nasty. A couple once was context with each other, is now at war with each other.
1. Which parts of the text did you focus on? Two spoons in bed and the knives they have hired
ReplyDelete2. Why did you pay particular attention to these parts? Because the two spoons in bed to me is a couple in bed and knives they have hired is like Cristian says it might be the attorneys they hired
3. What questions were you asking as you read? Why would they hire knives?
4. What images were you forming as you read? A couple in bed, and then the couple in an office sitting with their attorneys discussing divorce
5. What were the purposes of these images? The purpose of the image is so I can understand the poem better
6. What theme do you take away from this poem? People married without really analyzing their relationship, and most marriages end in divorce
I like your imagery in for question 4.
Delete-Austin Duenes
I agree with number 5.
Delete-Haakam Sherwani
Austin Duenes
ReplyDelete1. The part I focused the most on was the two spoons. It is a great representation to their marriage.
2. I paid attention to these parts because they in fact show how their relationship is.
3. For what reasons would they hire knives?
4. I envisioned a world where spoons and knives were like people talking with life like actions.
5. These Images were used so that the reader can understand what is going on and gives it a different approach to it.
6. The struggles of marriage.
1) I was concerned on the two spoons and how they changed into forks.
ReplyDelete2) I was concerned about this because spooning is a sign of affection, which isn't showed as forks because forks are more sharp.
3) Who are the knives, and why are they being hired?
What does the granite table represent?
4) I imagined two spouses slowly drifting apart, and they both have now found new significant others, which represent the knives.
5) The purpose was to give the audience characteristics of a messy divorce to inanimate objects, which puts emphasis on the events taking place.
6) I took away that divorces should never happen, you shouldn't be a fork or a knife, you should be a spoon.
- Haakam Sherwani
1. Which parts of the text did you focus on?
ReplyDeleteand the knives they have hired
2. Why did you pay particular attention to these parts?
Because some bad person in the family "across the granite table" lead for this divorce as been describes "and the knives they have hired"
3. What questions were you asking as you read?
he knows the person been hired for this mission (the divorce) but he doesn't say who?
4. What images were you forming as you read?
He start with how happy they used to be these Couple "two spoons in bed" and ended with one "now tined forks"
5. What were the purposes of these images?
Because they was happy Couple "two spoons" and now ended with a divorce "one forks" the wife
6. What theme do you take away from this poem?
the Divorce, during the marriage, you should be an deaf to this universe except your wife and she too as well.
Khaldun
ReplyDelete1. The fact that it shows how most relationships start out with two people who are inseparable, but slowly grow apart over time. It is sad, but happens over and over again.
2. Mainly because of the title. Without the title it would be very hard to understand what the author is actually talking about. It would probably be thought of as a poem about silverware instead of divorce.
3. I didn’t have much time before the poem was over, but I was wondering if there would be a clear message that the poem was trying to get across. Even though it is short, I think it did a great job.
4. I was thinking about the family in the movie “American Beauty” which is a great example of a husband and wife drifting apart over the years.
5. To help me understand what the author is attempting to express with his words.
6. The theme is that over time it is very easy for a relationship to fade. Two people who were once so close can slowly drift apart over time.
Marc Moody