CARPA for "The Ruined Maid"
1. Which parts of the text did you focus on?
2. Why did you pay particular attention to these parts?
3. What questions were you asking as you read?
4. What images were you forming as you read?
5. What were the purposes of these images?
6. What theme do you take away from this poem?
2. Why did you pay particular attention to these parts?
3. What questions were you asking as you read?
4. What images were you forming as you read?
5. What were the purposes of these images?
6. What theme do you take away from this poem?
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Professor Stanley
Madison Tollett
ReplyDelete1)I focused on the way the angered woman was speaking to the higher class lady.
2) It was obvious that they once new each other and even possible worked together so I wonder how one made it big while the other so small.
3)How do these women know one another? Why is one better off even though it seems she was once the same as this tattered maid?
4)One woman looking exhausted and distraught yelling and pointing fingers at another so delicate, clean and elegantly dressed while fully rested.
5) It seemed as if this is exactly what happened. One woman angered by the sight of this upright young woman.
6) Life is what you make of it.
I agree with you Madison on number 2. They do know each other and they differentiate each other based on their wealth and social class.
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Cristian Rayas
ReplyDelete1) I focused when the lady not mentioned was trying to make 'Milia feel better by her new style of wardrobe
2) The woman not mentioned is commenting on 'Milia's new clothes and look.
3) Why was 'Milia upset? Why didn't they mention the other woman's name? was she not important?
4) I imagined 'Milia looking wrecked and different at the same time. Also when 'Milia told the other woman that she can never be like her.
5) 'Milia was being compared to the woman she use to be a long time ago. Now she had tried something different and changed the way she dressed and looked. The other woman is reminding 'Milia of her past and how shes different from now to then, it could mean she's complementing her. However the last stanza 'Milia insults the other woman by saying she can never be like her because she's a "raw country girl" meaning dirty maybe a different social class.
6)People look content in the outside but in the inside people are suffering. Disguise.
-Cristian Rayas
1. "I wish I had feathers, a fine sweeping gown,
ReplyDeleteAnd a delicate face, and could strut about Town!" —
"My dear — a raw country girl, such as you be,
Cannot quite expect that. You ain't ruined," said she.
2. I don't get that they're co-workers. Old friends perhaps. It stood out because it made me think "Chick fight".
3. Why is the language so strange? (And thik oon,' and theäs oon,' and t'other'; but now)
4. A young lady, lavishly dressed in garments too fancy for her means.
5. Just trying to visualize the lady. helps bring the story to life if you can see it.
6. Life is what you make it, and disguise are interesting takes on this piece. I see contentment, in spite of strife.
Doug Trimmer
On #3 I was curious myself why the language was so strange I had to read it a few times to really understand the ("And thik oon,' and theäs oon,' and t'other'; but now").
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Jessica Gallardo
ReplyDelete1.Which parts of the text did you focus on?
O 'Melia, my dear, this does everything crown! Who could have supposed I should meet you in Town? Focuses is on the surface differences between the before maid and the ruined after maid from the perspective of a friend, associate, or relative in her previous provincial existence. The word "ruined" signifies loss (of innocence) through a compromise of values, the most likely of which is the holy value of virginity.
2.Why did you pay particular attention to these parts?
Her gait is a "strut" drawing similarities to prostitutes, but her language is ironically low, (ain't) compared to her respectful provincial upbringing.
3.What questions were you asking as you read?
How does the ruined maid probably make her living?
4.What images were you forming as you read?
A lost maid or a young girl walking thru town by herself and not knowing anyone and maybe being prisoner, and maybe not finding a job and easy way out of her life is to do prostitution.
5.What were the purposes of these images?
How well does this image convey what the poem intends.
6.What theme do you take away from this poem?
A young girl who has become a rich man's mistress to escape her own poverty, or just escaping to the city to find a job.
Holy Cow! Now I understand why the cow jumped over the moon.
DeleteI totally see your analysis on how her being "ruined" could signify her loss of virginity and of a marriage to a man who she may not really love but is nonetheless of wealth.
- Elephantsicko
1. I focused primarily on how the person addressing the maid kept bringing up how the maid had all of these nice things, but in the midst of all of that, the maid kept insisting that she was ruined.
ReplyDelete2. I started to infer that despite how the old friend viewed her as this fancy and elegantly dressed maid, the maid did not view herself that way, and instead felt quite the opposite.
3. Why does the maid feel ruined?
what happened?
how did they know each other before this exchange took place?
What does the maid mean by "ruined"?
4. I imagined a very fancily dressed young lady meeting with an old friend who was dressed maybe like a peasant or farmer of old. I imagined this took place (possibly) in England - for the sole fact that "crown" was mentioned and used to mean a priority - in the 17 or 1800s
5. They were meant for the reader to compare the differences between the two lifestyles that each lived.
6. The theme of this poem is "The grass is always greener on the other side." This is portrayed by how the person conversing with the maid keeps talking about how lucky the maid is to have all these riches and such fancy clothes. In contrast, the maid keeps insisting that this is not so. She regards herself as ruined. This suggests that the maid would prefer the other person's lifestyle.
- Elephantsicko
1) Every time when the girl said she was ruined, I have some ideas of what it may mean but nothing certain.
ReplyDelete2) Because the rest of the poem I understood fairly well, but when she said that she was ruined what I was given wasn’t enough to connect the dots, so my own assumption is up for debate. But then again poetry is what you make of it.
3) What does the character mean by “I am Ruined” ?
4) As I was reading I imagined a once hard working girl with little money barley able to have decent clothes, with all of a sudden top of the line fashion sense and jewelry.
5) The purposes of these images is to leave the audience wondering how she became “ruined and what happened fo her to be so ungrateful (not in a bad way) of what she now has.
6) That just because you have money and you have fine jewelry, everything can seem nice an wonderful on the outside but the inside is what matters most…She is not content with her new life.
-Benjamin Rosales
Benjamin,
DeleteI agree with what you said on #6. The poem does seem to have some elements of sarcasm that makes it seem that this person is not content with her life. There's a contradiction in what this other woman expects her to be and how the other woman actually presents herself.
Viridiana S.
1. on the other lady trying to make the maid feel better by showing all the good things she has but the ruin maid wasn't having it.
ReplyDelete2. because it helps show what kind of person the maid is. To me it seems that shes not the happiest person in the world she gets down easily and is kept down.
3. what happen to the maid for her to be so down and negative? And who is the lady trying to make her feel better?
4. a grouchy, bitter old maid being depressed.
5. it had was what I imagined her to be by the way she pulled a negative comment after every positive thing the other lady mentioned.
6. be a positive person because if you are a negative person you will be down and you only make yourself miserable.
1. "I wish I had feathers, a fine sweeping gown,
ReplyDeleteAnd a delicate face, and could strut about Town!"
2. She seems impressed by what she’s wearing and her accessories, this girl seems to be upper class.
3. It sounds like it is two girls reunited after a long period of time, how did they meet?
4. A girl nicely dressed wearing expensive clothing and the other girl dress normal.
5. She says “You left us in tatters, without shoes or socks,” sounds like they have weared the same thing at one point.
6. Stay humble, remember where you come from.
I completely agree with number 6.
Delete- Haakam Sherwani
1. Which parts of the text did you focus on?
ReplyDeleteI paid attention to the language of the poem. There seemed to be a lot of sarcasm. There’s also a constant repetition of the word “ruined”.
2. Why did you pay particular attention to these parts?
I paid attention to these parts of the poem because they seemed to stand out the most to me. The repetition of the word ruined gives us an indication that something is not right because the word has a negative connotation. This woman who is “ruined” has clearly defied the expectations of the other woman who already has an idea of what a ruined woman should look like. When she doesn’t see that happening with the maid, she questions how the maid doesn’t seem to be affected.
3. What questions were you asking as you read?
What does the word “ruined” really mean in their culture?
4. What images were you forming as you read?
The images I was forming in my head as a I read this were of two women speaking to each other. One of them is puzzled as to why this woman who is so “ruined”, according to her, is better off than before. The woman questioning the maid is confused.
5. What were the purposes of these images?
The purposes of these images are to indicate that there is a discrepancy in the reality vs. the expectation of a “ruined” woman. When one of the women questions the maid, it is fair to say that she already had an expectation of the way she look and act as a ruined woman. There’s also an implied idea that this maid is quite different than an average woman. There is something about her that isn’t right.
6. What theme do you take away from this poem?
The theme here is that things are not always what they seem to be. The expectations this woman had of the ruined maid weren’t clearly the same when she talked to her.
Viridiana S.
Roman Leal
ReplyDelete1) I focused on the 1st and last stanza.
2) I paid attention to the first stanza because it led to what was coming in the following stanzas by setting the mood. I paid attention to the last stanza because it turns out that it is 2 females that are talking to each other.
3) Who is talking? Why is there a lot of quoting? Did she go from rags to riches? Is this his Ex? If it is not a man talking to her, than who is it?
4) At first, I formed a man and a woman talking, and then I formed two ladies talking.
5) The purpose of these images was to get a visual in my mind of the conversation.
6) The theme here is that some people go from rags to riches and forget their origins.
Tommy
ReplyDelete1. Which parts of the text did you focus on?
I focused on the objects being mentioned by the persona.
I also focused on the responses given by the character at the end of each stanza.
2. Why did you pay particular attention to these parts?
They started to paint a picture of the setting.
Her responses helped my understand what the poem was about.
3. What questions were you asking as you read?
What does she mean, ruined?
What the heck does, “thik oon,' and theäs oon,' and t’other’" supposed to mean?
4. What images were you forming as you read?
I visualized a farm environment with lots of hard work being done by a country girl. Then on the other side I imagined a city environment with a city girl living in a high rise condo.
5. What were the purposes of these images?
These images helped my understand the meaning of the poem, by creating a rich setting for the poem to take place in.
6. What theme do you take away from this poem?
Don't forget where you come from, is the theme of the poem. This city girl who is, “ruined” used to be the country girl talking to her. Its a reminder of where she came from and what her views used to be about city folk.
1. I focused on how the lady is trying to help the maid telling her good gestures of how she isn't ruined but the maid keeps insisting she is.
ReplyDelete2. Because some snobby rich people that have a maid usually treat them like whatever because they are just there to use for cooking and cleaning. But on the other hand this lady doesn't sound like it.
3.I wondered first about who is speaking to who and why is she so "ruined"?
4. I formed someone trying to cheer up or help out the poor ruined maid.
5. It helps me understand more about the ruined maid an the lady.
6. The theme is everyone always wants money, and once you've reached the top you forget how it was to be poor and deicide to have no pity for it.
-Karla Menchaca
1. I focused on the part where the girl tells Melia that her clothes look new.
ReplyDelete2. I paid attention to that because it showed that the girl was kind of obsessed with the “new” Melia.
3. Why was it so important to the girl to point out Melia’s change in clothes? Why is she ruined?
4. I was imagining a girl talking to Melia pointing out all her changes, and how Melia says that he is ruined.
5. I imagined this because the Melia did not seem completely content with her new life.
6. Giving up everything just to have a new life is not always worth it. In other words, trying to be something that you are not will not always make you happy.
-Salam Zaidan
1. I focused on the end of each stanza where she talk about "she is ruined"
ReplyDelete2.i focused on this part because it helps me understand the tone of the poem.
3.why do they use "she is ruined at the end of each Stanza"
4.the images that are forming as I read is two ladies having a conservation about one of them being ruined.
5. Helped me understand what was going on and answer my own question in why they used "she is ruined" at the end of each stanza
6. the theme I take from this poem would be to be humble dont talk down on anybody because you never know in what status you will be in the future it could be bad or it could be good.
-Sarai Garcia
Your imagery in question four is a lot like mine.
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Austin Duenes
ReplyDelete1. I focused on how there is one side saying she isn't ruined and there's another side that saying she is.
2. I focused on this because it causes a battle within them and you have two sides provoking this struggle.
3. Why do they use the word ruined?
4. I formed an image in my head of people telling her she is ruined and another cheering them up.
5. These images helped me with the foundation of the poem. This is how I was able to understand it in a better way.
6. Now matter where you are don't let society taint your soul.
1) I focused on the response that Melia gave, which was really man and snobby.
ReplyDelete2) I focused on these parts because it was prevalent throughout the entire play, and I had an ill feeling towards her for it.
3) Why is Melia so mean? Does she not remember where she came from? Why is she ruined? Is ruined a bad thing or a good thing?
4) I formed a image of wealthy girl looking down upon a less fortunate girl, even though they both came from the same place.
5) The purpose was that this was prevalent throughout the poem, a girl thinking she's too good for her old friend.
6) The them I took away was never forget where you came from, because you never want to be that snobby girl who thinks she's better than everyone.
- Haakam Sherwani
1. Which parts of the text did you focus on?
ReplyDelete"You left us in tatters, without shoes or socks"
2. Why did you pay particular attention to these parts?
We are not a bridge, after you pass then destroy it, because that hurts.
3. What questions were you asking as you read?
"O Melia", why Melia insist to do all this mis, till the end he doesn't say why?
4. What images were you forming as you read?
Jealousy girl try to ruin her friend life.
5. What were the purposes of these images?
"O Melia / My dear" A friend "you left us in tatters" she been ruined, tired of digging Potatoes / I wish I had feathers / and could strut about town" that shows the changes oh her and the jealousy.
6. What theme do you take away from this poem?
if you want to have peace and happy life, give that to others first.
Khaldun
1. The imagery from the description about the woman. Before, when she wasn’t fancy, and after her transformation.
ReplyDelete2. Because this seems to be the main focus of the woman who is still living the life of hardship.
3. I was wondering how the woman who was now fancy had made her way out of being a maid. Perhaps she married a man with money, or started a business.
4. Two old friends bumping into each other. Time had been more kind to one of the friends than the other.
5. To help understand what exactly is going on in the poem. The woman who has found wealth is kind of snobby to her old equal.
6. The theme that I take away from this poem to stay humble. Boasting is not nice, or the right thing to do. She should have been able to remember her time as the old friends equal, and been nicer.
Marc Moody